Luk 13:3,5 "I tell you" or "I say" #1235

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opened 2024-10-15 17:12:20 +00:00 by SusanQuigley · 1 comment

SusanQuigley commented

2024-10-15 17:12:20 +00:00

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From Gary Shogren on Oct 11, 2024.

Luke 13:5 - ASV, UDB, Greek, etc., have, correctly, "No, I tell you" not "no, I say" (the text of the ULB). It should match up exactly with the "No, I tell you" in 13:3. This must have been a mere typo.

From Gary Shogren on Oct 11, 2024. Luke 13:5 - ASV, UDB, Greek, etc., have, correctly, "No, I **tell you**" not "no, I say" (the text of the ULB). It should match up exactly with the "No, I tell you" in 13:3. This must have been a mere typo.

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2024-10-15 17:38:26 +00:00

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\v 3 No, I tell you....
\v 5 No, I say....
\v 24 "Struggle to enter through the narrow door, because, I say to you, many ...
\v 27 "But he will reply, 'I say to you, I do not know ....
\v 35 See, your house is abandoned. I say to you, you will not see me until ...

From OGNT
v 3, 5, λέγω ὑμῖν,
v 27 Λέγων ὑμῖν·
v 35 λέγω δὲ ὑμῖν,

If we want consistency, they should all be either "I tell you" or "I say to you".

ESV has has "I tell you" 41 times in Luke chapters 3, 4, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, and 22. I have not checked the OGNT

ESV has "I say to you" 10 times in chapters 4, 5, 6, 7, 12, 18, 21, and 23. I don't see any significant difference in the Greek between those that are translated as "I tell you" and "I say to you".

From OGNT
4:24 λέγω ὑμῖν
5:24 Σοὶ λέγω (Σοὶ is 2s.)
6:27 ὑμῖν λέγω

\v 3 No, I tell you.... \v 5 No, I say.... \v 24 "Struggle to enter through the narrow door, because, **I say to you,** many ... \v 27 "But he will reply, **'I say to you,** I do not know .... \v 35 See, your house is abandoned. **I say to you**, you will not see me until ... From OGNT v 3, 5, λέγω ὑμῖν, v 27 Λέγων ὑμῖν· v 35 λέγω δὲ ὑμῖν, **If** we want consistency, they should all be either "I tell you" or "I say to you". ESV has has "I tell you" 41 times in Luke chapters 3, 4, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, and 22. I have not checked the OGNT ESV has "I say to you" 10 times in chapters 4, 5, 6, 7, 12, 18, 21, and 23. I don't see any significant difference in the Greek between those that are translated as "I tell you" and "I say to you". From OGNT 4:24 λέγω ὑμῖν 5:24 Σοὶ λέγω (Σοὶ is 2s.) 6:27 ὑμῖν λέγω