en_tn_condensed/heb/12/07.md

# Endure suffering as discipline

"Understand that during suffering God teaches us discipline"

# God deals with you as with sons

This compares God disciplining his people to a father disciplining his sons. You can state clearly the understood information. AT: "God deals with you the same way a father deals with his sons" (See: [[rc://en/ta/man/translate/figs-simile]] and [[rc://en/ta/man/translate/figs-ellipsis]])

# sons ... son

All occurrences of these words may be stated to include males and females. AT: "children ... child" (See: [[rc://en/ta/man/translate/figs-gendernotations]])

# what son is there whom his father does not discipline?

The author makes the point throught this question that every good father disciplines his children. This can be expressed as a statement. AT: "every father disciplines his children!" (See: [[rc://en/ta/man/translate/figs-rquestion]])

# But if you are without discipline, which all people share in

You can restate the abstract noun "discipline" as the verb "disciplining." AT: "So if you have not experienced God disciplining you like he disciplines all his children" (See: [[rc://en/ta/man/translate/figs-abstractnouns]])

# then you are illegitimate and not his sons

Those whom God does not discipline are spoken of as if they are sons born to a man and a woman who are not married each other. (See: [[rc://en/ta/man/translate/figs-metaphor]])

# translationWords

* [[rc://en/tw/dict/bible/kt/endure]]
* [[rc://en/tw/dict/bible/kt/suffer]]
* [[rc://en/tw/dict/bible/kt/discipline]]
* [[rc://en/tw/dict/bible/kt/god]]
* [[rc://en/tw/dict/bible/kt/son]]
* [[rc://en/tw/dict/bible/other/father]]
initial v6 rc conversion 2017-06-21 20:50:04 +00:00			`# Endure suffering as discipline`
Initial commit of translationNotes 2016-02-23 02:42:46 +00:00
initial v6 rc conversion 2017-06-21 20:50:04 +00:00			`"Understand that during suffering God teaches us discipline"`
Initial commit of translationNotes 2016-02-23 02:42:46 +00:00
initial v6 rc conversion 2017-06-21 20:50:04 +00:00			`# God deals with you as with sons`
Initial commit of translationNotes 2016-02-23 02:42:46 +00:00
initial v6 rc conversion 2017-06-21 20:50:04 +00:00			`This compares God disciplining his people to a father disciplining his sons. You can state clearly the understood information. AT: "God deals with you the same way a father deals with his sons" (See: [[rc://en/ta/man/translate/figs-simile]] and [[rc://en/ta/man/translate/figs-ellipsis]])`
added v1 tn converted to an rc 2017-06-21 20:45:09 +00:00
initial v6 rc conversion 2017-06-21 20:50:04 +00:00			`# sons ... son`
added v1 tn converted to an rc 2017-06-21 20:45:09 +00:00
initial v6 rc conversion 2017-06-21 20:50:04 +00:00			`All occurrences of these words may be stated to include males and females. AT: "children ... child" (See: [[rc://en/ta/man/translate/figs-gendernotations]])`

			`# what son is there whom his father does not discipline?`

			`The author makes the point throught this question that every good father disciplines his children. This can be expressed as a statement. AT: "every father disciplines his children!" (See: [[rc://en/ta/man/translate/figs-rquestion]])`

			`# But if you are without discipline, which all people share in`

			`You can restate the abstract noun "discipline" as the verb "disciplining." AT: "So if you have not experienced God disciplining you like he disciplines all his children" (See: [[rc://en/ta/man/translate/figs-abstractnouns]])`

			`# then you are illegitimate and not his sons`

added tw to notes 2017-06-24 00:15:21 +00:00			`Those whom God does not discipline are spoken of as if they are sons born to a man and a woman who are not married each other. (See: [[rc://en/ta/man/translate/figs-metaphor]])`

			`# translationWords`

			`* [[rc://en/tw/dict/bible/kt/endure]]`
			`* [[rc://en/tw/dict/bible/kt/suffer]]`
			`* [[rc://en/tw/dict/bible/kt/discipline]]`
			`* [[rc://en/tw/dict/bible/kt/god]]`
			`* [[rc://en/tw/dict/bible/kt/son]]`
			`* [[rc://en/tw/dict/bible/other/father]]`