This can be stated in active form. Alternate translation: "as if people did not know us, and yet people know us well" (See: [[rc://en/ta/man/jit/figs-activepassive]])
This can be stated in active form. Alternate translation: "as if people were punishing us for our actions, yet they have not killed us" (See: [[rc://en/ta/man/jit/figs-activepassive]])